I've been reading the books for literally 20 years, sob, so much investment. Anyway: Tormund is one of the Wildling chiefs (he's a bit younger in the show than in the books), the one who's a larger-than-life-Norseman/Celt type, and Thorne is the Master-At-Arms at Castle Black who absolutely hates Jon's guts and spearheads the mutiny to murder him in the show (in the books he's sent away to a different castle and is not part of that mutiny). It's funny because the reason Thorne hates Jon is that Jon is "Ned Stark's son" -- except that unbeknownst to everyone, Jon is actually Rhaegar Targaryen's son who Ned Stark raised. Thorne was at Castle Black because he was a Targaryen loyalist during Robert's Rebellion, and he had to join the Night's Watch to avoid execution after his side lost the war. He hates Ned Stark because Ned Stark fought on the opposite side. So in the scenario where Thorne leads the mutiny and stabs Jon, he's responsible for killing the guy he would have thought was the true king if he had known all the facts. Irony!
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I've been reading the books for literally 20 years, sob, so much investment. Anyway: Tormund is one of the Wildling chiefs (he's a bit younger in the show than in the books), the one who's a larger-than-life-Norseman/Celt type, and Thorne is the Master-At-Arms at Castle Black who absolutely hates Jon's guts and spearheads the mutiny to murder him in the show (in the books he's sent away to a different castle and is not part of that mutiny). It's funny because the reason Thorne hates Jon is that Jon is "Ned Stark's son" -- except that unbeknownst to everyone, Jon is actually Rhaegar Targaryen's son who Ned Stark raised. Thorne was at Castle Black because he was a Targaryen loyalist during Robert's Rebellion, and he had to join the Night's Watch to avoid execution after his side lost the war. He hates Ned Stark because Ned Stark fought on the opposite side. So in the scenario where Thorne leads the mutiny and stabs Jon, he's responsible for killing the guy he would have thought was the true king if he had known all the facts. Irony!